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Work Issues / Re: Email that just says "Thanks"
« on: December 19, 2018, 12:38:36 pm »
I don't send emails without substance, personally. I might say, "Thank you - I appreciate your work on this. I'll follow up next week." But the back and forth drives me crazy, especially when someone is simply doing their job in sending an email, there is a reply of "thank you," and then another reply of "no problem!" followed by yet another reply of a smiley face. Just...….please don't.

Also, in many places all emails must be indexed, both outgoing and incoming. It can add work to send pointless emails.

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Holidays / Re: Your Holiday Hill to Die On
« on: November 21, 2018, 10:07:47 am »
I told my mom I was NOT going to go to family Thanksgiving this year. I didn't go last year, and this week she asked me if I was planning to come this year, and I said no. She was upset and asked me to reconsider, but I was firm, and she didn't press the point--she knows I would just dig in further.

Last year she told people I was sick. She was like, "Well, what should I tell people this year? I already used 'sick' once," and I was like, "I don't care, tell them whatever you want, whatever works best for you." Really, it's whatever will make things the easiest for her, and get her the least blowback from people like my grandma. I couldn't care less what they think, but my mom has to be more politic about it.

Then she says, "Maybe I'll tell them you have a boyfriend, and you're spending Thanksgiving with his family!" I just laughed. I have no idea if she's serious or not. I'm sure she hadn't really thought it through, because that would be a terrible thing to tell people. This would be MAJOR news within the family, they would all remember it, and they would all continually pester my mom about who this guy was and when were we getting married and all that. I told her I didn't care, but I wasn't going to keep up with anything elaborate.

Of course, later I wished I'd thought to say, "Why not have some fun with it, and tell them it's a girlfriend?" Because a number of my relatives would NOT like that, and it would have been amusing to hear how they tried to cover it up and be polite (or not).

Obviously I do not have the right attitude to be attending family holiday gatherings, if I just want to mess with people! I'll probably have to go for Christmas, though, more for logistics reasons, as I'll be staying with my parents anyway, and I don't want to be left alone in their house all day (scary old house in the middle of the country).

Oooooh, this could be fun! But seriously, consider an "excuse" of "Lynn2000 is spending Thanksgiving volunteering this year." They don't have to know that you are volunteering your time for a Netflix marathon and personal Franzia "wine tasting."

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Wedding Etiquette / Re: "Bridal shower", what gift do you give?
« on: November 21, 2018, 10:05:20 am »
I pretty much always buy off the registry nowadays but I much prefer the way it used to be, even if it did mean people got some gifts that weren't ideal. At least the gifts were (mostly) more personal.

This is an odd perspective to me. What could be more personal than literally giving people exactly what they want?

I think we may have different definitions of personal. Which is fine of course!
To me, in this context, it would mean that I, as gift giver, put time and thought into choosing a gift for you that has meaning.

Going down a list to choose a gift that comes closest to the amount I wanted to spend is about as cold and impersonal (again, IMO) as I can imagine.

I'll give you an example. As part of a shower gift I received as a bride-to-be almost 40 years ago, I received a special knife that the gift giver ordered by mail. (This was way before the internet!) She had one and used it and loved it and wanted share that with me. I still have that knife and use it regularly. And I still think of that person often when using it.

It's not something I would have ever registered for, because it would not have even been on my radar. But it's a very useful tool!

It's just a knife. Not a hugely expensive item and it was part of the gift, not the entire one. But in my book, that was a personal gift because she wanted to give me something that she loved.

I think I understand your perspective. From my perspective, the gift of the knife was more personal to the giver - what the giver wanted. I am sure sometimes this works out well, but generally speaking I want to give people what they have expressed that THEY want, not what I think they should want. I do this by directly asking people what they want (like for Christmas or birthdays for my nieces and nephew) or consulting a registry when one exists (yes, even "honeymoon registries").

As an aside, as a person who does not cook really ever, a knife would not be particularly useful or meaningful to me. I think about things I really have enjoyed, like a kettlebell I use often in workouts. I love my kettlebell! I wish everyone loved to use kettlebells! But it would be unrealistic for me to gift a kettlebell to everyone because *I* love my kettlebell when I know they would prefer the knife they registered for because they are into cooking more than they are into kettlebells.

Anyway, just different perspectives.

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Wedding Etiquette / Re: "Bridal shower", what gift do you give?
« on: November 20, 2018, 04:31:40 pm »
I pretty much always buy off the registry nowadays but I much prefer the way it used to be, even if it did mean people got some gifts that weren't ideal. At least the gifts were (mostly) more personal.

This is an odd perspective to me. What could be more personal than literally giving people exactly what they want?

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Wedding Etiquette / Re: "Bridal shower", what gift do you give?
« on: November 20, 2018, 10:18:20 am »
I think a holiday shower sounds like a terrific idea!  That would be fun to attend.  It's always more interesting to me when shower guests choose or make their own gifts rather than buy off the registry most of the guests have already seen.

Eh, I really love registries. In my limited experience, people have specific things they want and if they're given something different, it's just going to be clutter, unless they can find a way to return it. I mean you can say that's not in the spirit of gracious gift-receiving, but I think wedding and baby-related gifts still have the tinge of being more practical. I suppose if the bride is a Kardashian with a 10,000 square foot house, you can get them an engraved cake server or vase that matches their living room colors or something more "gifty," but I think the average couple is going to be like, "What is the point of this? Just stick it in the junk cabinet."

I'm really into reducing STUFF right now, though, so that might be influencing me. My parents have been cleaning out cabinets in their house and finding 45-year-old wedding gifts never taken out of the original box. I guess it hasn't hurt them to store it for 45 years, but one can't help feeling that space could have been used more efficiently than for storing a fondue set they never asked for. (Which ironically has now come back around in style.)

Although some people dislike gift-giving adult birthday parties, I do think "original" or "homemade" gifts are better suited to that occasion.

I agree 100%. If I tell you what I want, but you give me something YOU think I "should" want instead, you might be giving something I appreciate but more than likely you will be giving me something I don't want and almost insulting me in the process. It comes across as "I have better taste than you do," or "the things you want are too ______ for MY taste, so I am giving you something I would want instead." If I say I want a specific style of lamp for my child's room, but you give me one you like better......I will graciously thank you but go buy the lamp I wanted and put your lamp in storage. So what was accomplished there? You just wasted your time and money going AGAINST what I said would please me! I don't understand why people do this.

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General Discussion / Re: TIL: Today I Learned...
« on: October 30, 2018, 10:43:44 am »
This is a completely different context, but my mind was blown. My husband is a drummer* in two bands (one acoustic, one "rock and roll") that play covers of popular songs. A couple nights ago he was showing me his set list and I saw the song "Panama." I said, "Panama? I don't think I've ever heard that?" He started to sing it (it is by Van Halen) and I instantly recognized the tune, but laughed at the lyrics he was signing. "Paaaaanamah…….Paaaaaanamah-ah-ah-ah....."

"Hahahahah! You mean 'Let it rock......let it roll-oll-oll-oll……!!!!" My husband looked at me, uncertain if I was trying to be funny. "You mean that's NOT the lyrics?" I asked.

He pulled up the lyrics, and sure enough, for DECADES I have been singing (loudly, by the way, and clearly) the wrong lyrics to that song. Mind. Blown.

*Not for his job. Just for fun and extra cash, but mostly for fun.

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Wedding Etiquette / Re: Plus one- yes or no?
« on: October 16, 2018, 09:24:07 am »
Maybe it's just me, but this sounds like the happy couple feels like they should pay for a "playdate" for Daphne so that she wouldn't feel alone as the only single guest...

In any case, in agreement with PP's: just ask her if she's bringing anyone. Please don't tell her that she's the only single guest. She's a grown woman, so I'm sure it's not the first time, and it's not a situation she can't deal with.

I'd pay more attention to seating etc. so that the guest(s) arriving alone would be in the company of people they already know or something similar.

I agree, especially with the bolded. On some level, bringing a plus one if she is not in an established relationship could induce more stress for everyone. Especially for such a small wedding, I would ask Daphne if she would like to bring a date, and leave it at that.

I am thinking back to my single days and I would have felt super-awkward inviting someone I was not in a relationship with to a small wedding. A large party atmosphere wedding, perhaps, but a small intimate wedding, no. It feels "pressurey" and I would prefer to just go by myself and support the people who invited me rather than feel I needed to focus on entertaining my "date" who doesn't know anyone and whom I barely know myself.

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General Life / Re: Can I have my jacket back, please?
« on: September 11, 2018, 03:58:32 pm »
Since the OP asked when it was "convenient" to come pick up the jacket, I can see why the woman responded with, "Why don't you just get it at next week's meeting." If I were the OP, I would have phrased it differently or responded how Lynn2000 suggested if I really wanted the jacket before the following week. More like, "I am so sorry - I accidentally left my jacket at your house! Can you leave it on your front stoop and I will come by to pick it up?" I know for me, I have a great many jackets and it wouldn't occur to me that a person only had one so it wouldn't seem like an "emergency" in the sense of a cell phone or medication or something.

I am rarely just hanging out at home, and I can absolutely see telling someone that it is not convenient for them to "stop by." I don't like surprises, and I have plans for how I want to spend my time at home.

That doesn't mean I would absolutely not make exceptions or accommodate them, but if the question is, "When is convenient for you?" I will be honest and state when it is actually convenient for me.

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Work Issues / Re: New NFL Rules re: National Anthem
« on: September 07, 2018, 09:42:35 am »
I think the backlash might have been lesser had the phrase chosen for Kaepernick’s face been something like, “Be strong in your beliefs. Just do it.” Or even, “Make sacrifices for what drives you. Just do it.” Or, “Integrity is taking action for your beliefs. Just do it.”

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Work Issues / Re: New NFL Rules re: National Anthem
« on: September 06, 2018, 10:30:34 am »
I don't personally have a problem with Nike advertising however it wants to, using whichever spokespeople it wants to. Just a point of clarity for much of the criticism (not all) I have seen. The phrase Nike chose for Kaepernick's face is "Believe in something. Even it if it means sacrificing everything. Just do it." To some people, this is offensive to the people and families of people who have actually sacrificed everything, meaning their very lives, for what they believe. To some people this is offensive to the police officers and veterans who have placed their very lives on the line for what they believe, whereas Kaepernick lost his job (and some even debate that).

Not making a statement of who is "right," just pointing out what the issue is, at least for some people.

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Work Issues / Re: New NFL Rules re: National Anthem
« on: September 05, 2018, 04:40:25 pm »
Kaepernick's gesture never had anything to do with the military, and it is not an insult to soldiers, veterans, or the United States.  Those who insisted on mischaracterizing it as such (not anyone here, including Marley!) did so knowingly and cynically to distract and undercut.  And I think the same is true of those who are protesting Nike now.

I stay out of politics personally, but I do try to understand where the various perspectives are coming from. I know some people are upset with Kaepernick's pig socks and perceived disrespect toward police officers, for example. These people do not appear to be racist at all, nor are they supportive of racist police officers. They are not even arguing that Kaepernick does not have a "right" to kneel for the anthem. They are instead upset about what they believe is a false narrative of "all cops are racist" that has led to violence against good police officers. They also point out that not all police officers or their families are white men, either.

Anyway, my point is that there are way more than two perspectives to the issues and the more people (in general, not specific to this thread) refuse to listen to where other perspectives are coming from, the longer the division will continue. People on all "sides" feel unheard and disrespected it seems.

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General Discussion / Re: The "Unpopular Opinions" Thread
« on: August 31, 2018, 11:44:33 am »
I think, too, that at some point we need to not care what everyone else thinks. We cannot please everyone, all the time, so we need to have confidence in our own perspectives and actions.

There are some people whose opinions I value. It's not that I will change my behavior necessarily based on what these people think, but I certainly will consider their opinion and decide if should change mine. And then there are people whose opinions do not matter to me, so it does not bother me whether they "look down their nose" at me or think I am wrong about something. I am confident there are people who do not care one iota that I disagree with them about concept A or issue B. That is the way the world works! 

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General Life / Re: How to politely tell people they can't use...
« on: August 23, 2018, 02:13:47 pm »
I agree with Lynn2000. Yes, you have a right to keep the porta potty for your personal use, but biological realities may create problems.

I think if the porta potty is visible, people will assume it is usable by the public. By the time it is explained/understood that the porta potty is private, the person who thought they could use it may actually be in distress. What are their options then? I don't really know how this campground is set up, but would a person not allowed to use your porta potty then have to just "go" somewhere on the ground outside? Is that actually preferable? I personally would rather that someone use my porta potty than have them relieve themselves on the ground near where my tent and campfire are!

I would do what I can to make the porta potty not visible to the public so that people do not make it a "destination" to do their business and then find themselves in distress because they are too far away from another bathroom open to the public.

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General Life / Re: **** Does Not Equate to Price Gouging
« on: August 14, 2018, 01:55:53 pm »
So we want to throw hands over the idea a man can't be **** by someone without a ****? Because that does happen. You're ignorant.

Did I miss a post somewhere? To whom are you referring? I haven't re-read this thread recently but as I recall it had nothing to do with whether a man could be **** and everything to do with whether the word "****" should be used in contexts that do not involve sexual assault.

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I read far more quickly than I can speak, and I read in chunks rather than each word separately (depending on source, but generally speaking). So I don’t “hear” words.

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